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Januar 15, 2020 um 10:55 pm #5301797

peter

Ist es möglich nur auf den Seiten eine Sprachauswahl anzubieten, die übersetzt sind?
Wir werden nicht alle Seiten ins Englische übersetzen. Wenn eine Englische Seite vorhanden ist, dann soll bitte eine Sprachauswahl angezeigt werden.

Wenn keine Übersetzung vorhanden ist soll automatisch immer die deutsche Seite angezeigt werden und auch kein Sprachauswahlschalter...

Januar 16, 2020 um 4:01 pm #5306763

Andreas W.
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Hallo,

Vielen Dank, dass Sie das WPML Support Forum kontaktiert haben.

Der WPML Sprachwechsler wird im Grunde immer nur dann angezeigt, wenn eine Übersetzung vorliegt. Liegt keine Übersetzung vor, so sollte die Sprachauswahl nicht erscheinen.

Wenn Sie auf Ihrer Website eine andere Darstellung erhalten, könnte dies am Theme liegen.

Um Ihnen schneller zu helfen, habe ich eine private Nachricht zum Senden der Debug-Informationen für dieses Support-Ticket aktiviert. Unter diesem Link erfahren Sie, wie Sie diese Informationen von Ihrer Website abrufen und an uns weitergeben können:
https://wpml.org/de/faq/so-liefern-sie-fehlerbehebungsinformationen-fuer-schnelleren-support/

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas

Januar 19, 2020 um 4:17 pm #5319065

peter

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Januar 20, 2020 um 4:12 pm #5325765

Andreas W.
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Hallo,

Ich möchte einen temporären Zugriff (wp-admin und FTP) auf Ihre Site anfordern, um das Problem genauer zu untersuchen. Besser wäre eine Testseite, an der das Problem repliziert werden kann.

Die dafür erforderlichen Felder finden Sie unterhalb des Kommentarbereichs, wenn Sie sich anmelden, um Ihre nächste Antwort zu hinterlassen. Die Informationen, die Sie eingeben werden, sind privat, was bedeutet, dass nur Sie und ich sie sehen und darauf zugreifen können.

Vielleicht muss ich Ihre Site lokal replizieren. Dazu muss ich vorübergehend ein Plugin namens „Duplicator“ auf Ihrer Site installieren. Dadurch kann ich eine Kopie Ihrer Website und Ihrer Inhalte erstellen. Sobald das Problem behoben ist, lösche ich die lokale Site. Lassen Sie mich wissen, ob dies bei Ihnen in Ordnung ist.

 WICHTIG

Machen Sie eine Sicherungskopie der Site-Dateien und der Datenbank, bevor Sie uns den Zugriff gewähren.
Wenn Sie die Felder "wp-admin / FTP" nicht sehen, werden Ihre Anmeldedaten für Post und Website als "PUBLIC" (Öffentlich) festgelegt. Veröffentlichen Sie NICHT die Details Ihrer Website, es sei denn, Sie sehen die erforderlichen wp-admin / FTP-Felder. Wenn Sie dies nicht tun, bitten Sie mich, die private Box zu aktivieren. Die private Box sieht so aus:
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas

Januar 20, 2020 um 7:48 pm #5326739

Andreas W.
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Hello,

Thank you very much for providing access to the staging but I am receiving a 403 error when trying to reach the wp-login.

Could you please doublecheck? This might be related to .htaccess settings.

Kind regards
Andreas

Januar 20, 2020 um 8:22 pm #5326875

peter

Had the same 403 error ???

Now
Changed login credential within private message
Should work as Admin for you now

Januar 20, 2020 um 11:19 pm #5327817

Andreas W.
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Hallo,

Die einzige Seite, die bislang übersetzt ist, ist die Seite namens "Peter". Hier funktionieren die Sprachwechsler wie erwartet.

Der Sprachwechsler kann nur erscheinen, wenn eine Übersetzung angelegt wurde.

Bitte lesen Sie Sie unseren Nutzer-Guide für Beginner:
https://wpml.org/de/documentation-3/ratgeber-zum-loslegen/

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas

Januar 21, 2020 um 12:40 pm #5332327

peter

Der Sprachumschalter wird auch auf Seiten angezeigt, die nicht übersetzt sind. Siehe angehängte Bilder. Wenn ich den Sprachumschalter ganz rausnehme aus den Einstellungen, dann wird er auch auf übersetzten Seiten nicht angezeigt. Also hier wieder rein genommen (siehe Bild 2)

Bleibt für mich die Frage gibt es eine Einstellung, die den Sprachumschalter nur auf übersetzten Seiten anzeigt? (Sprachumschalter ausgeblendet wenn die Seite nur in einer Sprache vorliegt?)

Vielleicht verstehe ich da auch nach Studium der verlinkten Seite irgendetwas falsch?
Herzliche Grüße
Peter

Januar 21, 2020 um 8:52 pm #5336039

Andreas W.
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Hallo,

Diese Problematik sollte an der aktuellen Einstellung für die Übersetzung von Beiträgen und Seiten liegen.

Unter WPML -> EInstellungen -> Beitragstypen übersetzen haben Sie folgendes eingestellt:

"Übersetzbar - Übersetzung nutzen, sofern verfügbar, oder auf Standardsprache
zurückgreifen"

Bei diese Einstellung wird WPML für solche Beiträge, die nicht übersetzt sind, ein Duplikat des originalen Beitrages anzeigen, weshalb davon ausgegangen wird, dass in der Tat eine Übersetzung vorliegt.

Legen Sie hier nun die Einstellung "Übersetzbar - nur übersetzte Elemente anzeigen" fest, so sollten nur Sprachauswahloptionen für die Inhalte angezeigt werden, für welche tatsächlich eine Übersetzung angelegt wurde.

Ich hoffe das klärt Ihr anliegen.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas

Januar 21, 2020 um 9:37 pm #5336437

peter

Yes this solves the question.
...and sorry opens a new one.
When I change the setting the translated page is without text?!

Already saved the page and the translated page no result.
any idea what to do?

Januar 22, 2020 um 2:44 pm #5341939

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Hello,

It seems you have changed the directory password protection which for I am not able to reach the wp-admin of the staging site anymore.

Do you refer to that there is not any content on the WordPress Backend Editor or is there not content on the WPML Translation Editor? Is the respective page translated?

If you earlier chose the option "Fallback to default language" the posts or pages will show the default language content for each content that does not have a translation yet.

If now, you chose the option "Only show translated content" you will need to translate the pages or posts in order for them to show up on another language.

An alternative would be instead of translating, to mark the checkbox for "Duplicate" in the Language option of the right sidebar on your WordPress page or post editor.

This way you would be able to create translation which is an identical duplicate of the original language content and these translations will get overwritten once the original content receives an update.

Take note that if you chose the translation option "Duplicate" the content will be the same on all languages. Afterwards you will be able to go to the translated page editor and chose the option "translate independently". This will cancel the connectivity between original and duplicate and you will be able to edit the translated page.

More information here:
https://wpml.org/documentation/translating-your-contents/displaying-untranslated-content-on-pages-in-secondary-languages/using-content-duplication/

Kind regards
Andreas

Januar 24, 2020 um 7:59 pm #5359093

peter

Sorry for coming back after two days...
And also for the inconvenience not to get into the account. I did not change anything and double checked credentials. It should work now...

What you write I understand
and hat does not really get my problem.
Let me try again.

Everything is okay and I understood the changes you asked for (as I once again add the screenshot) so that only for translated pages the language changer is shown. (Changing to "Übersetzbar - nur übersetzte Elemente anzeigen") But then, when I go on the language switcher the english page is not shown there is no content for the english version??
the page is found under: hidden link

As soon as I change back to "Übersetzbar - Übersetzung nutzen, sofern verfügbar, oder auf Standardsprache zurückgreifen" at the same adress as shown the english version is seen.
That is strange for me and I cannot solve it.

It would be great when you can have a look once more.

Januar 24, 2020 um 10:22 pm #5359451

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Hallo Peter,

Entschuldigen Sie bitte. Die Seite ist in der Tat übersetzt aber ich habe andere Probleme festgestellt:

hidden link

Das Problem ist folgendes:

As irgendeinem Grund wird auf der Seite "Peter" angezeigt:

This post is also available in: English

Ich sehe das diese Option deaktiviert ist und eigentlich nicht angezeigt werden sollte (WPML -> Sprachen -> Links zur Übersetzung von Beiträgen).

Diese Sprachauswahl ist zudem eigentlich nur für Beitrage (Posts) und nicht für Seiten.

Wir müssten diesbezüglich etwas tiefer in die Dateien des Themes schauen und eventuell um Hilfe des Theme Authoren bitten.

Nun zur Frage, warum diese Seite nicht übersetzt angezeigt wird.

Um mit WPML einen Sprachwechsler zu verwenden, der Übersetzungen von Seiten anzeigt, muss entweder der Menü-Sprachwechsler, der Footer-Sprachwechsler oder ein benutzerdefinierter Sprachwechsler aktiviert werden.

Ich habe nun unter WPML -> Sprachen die Sprachauswahl für den Footer aktiviert, welcher allerdings nicht im Theme angezeigt wird. Wir haben hier somit ein Problem zwischen WPML und dem Theme.

Ich habe auch versucht allen erstellten Menus eine Sprachauswahl hinzuzufügen, was jedoch auch leider nicht immer wie erwartet funktioniert.

Mir müssten nun das verwendete Theme auf einer neuen WordPress Installation auf Kompatilbität testen.

Bitte installieren Sie das Themify Ultra Theme in seiner aktuellen Version hier:

wordpress-351980-1137504.cloudwaysapps.com/wp-login.php

Hinterlassen Sie mir bitte eine kurze Nachricht, sobald das Theme installiert wurde. Es wäre auch hilfreich, wenn Sie mir nähere Angaben dazu erteilen könnten, wie hidden link erstellt wurde und welches Menu hier und unter hidden link verwendet wird.

Ein benutzerdefinierter Sprachwechsler könnte hier das Problem beheben.

https://wpml.org/de/documentation-3/ratgeber-zum-loslegen/einstellung-der-sprachen/kundenspezifischer-sprachumschalter/

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas

Januar 25, 2020 um 12:46 am #5359697

peter

Kann auf die Seite nicht zugreifen
wordpress-351980-1137504.cloudwaysapps.com/wp-login.php

auf der Homepage gibt es keine menues.
Die Verweise sind manuell eingetragen als Bausteine des sitebuilders von Themify (hierher kommt auch das Thema "Ultra" hidden link

Januar 27, 2020 um 3:45 pm #5371065

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Hallo,

Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Unannehmlichkeiten.

Ich habe eine neue Test-Site erstellt:

Ein-Klick-Login gültig für 7 Tage:
hidden link

Bitte installieren Sie das Themify Ultra Theme in seiner aktuellen Version.

Zudem kann das WP Menus Sync Feature nur für Menus genutzt werden die in WordPress, unter Darstellung -> Menus erstellt wurden.

Interne Links, die auf den Page Builder basieren, sollten entweder bei Übersetzen des jeweiligen Seite manuell je Sprache, oder mit dem WPML Übersetzungseditor, übersetzbar sein.
Um hier jedoch eine Sprachauswahl einzufügen, müssten Sie einen benutzerdefinierten Sprachwechsler in der entpsrechenden Theme Datei hinterlegen und diesen dann unter WPML -> Sprachen aktivieren und konfigurieren.

https://wpml.org/documentation/getting-started-guide/language-setup/custom-language-switcher/

Ich würde mich freuen, wenn Sie mit helfen könnten, den Aufbau der Seite auf der Test-Site provisorisch nachzustellen. Ich werde von dort aus prüfen und weitere Schritte einleiten.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas