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Last updated by Otto 7 months, 3 weeks ago.
Assisted by: Otto.
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| August 5, 2025 at 5:05 pm #17297469 | |
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farshadS |
Background of the issue: Symptoms: Questions: |
| August 5, 2025 at 6:23 pm #17297738 | |
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Otto |
Hello, To ensure the quickest and most accurate support, please provide your debug information so I can look at some of your configurations. We have an excellent article on how to locate it here: https://wpml.org/faq/provide-debug-information-faster-support/. You have credits in your wpml.org account that need to be assigned to the site. To do so, follow these steps please: - Log in to wpml.org → My Account → Manage Automatic Translation. Best Regards, |
| August 5, 2025 at 7:04 pm #17297869 | |
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farshadS |
After assigning credits to our website (url), we're still getting the "Out of Credits for Automatic Translation" notification. What's happening? |
| August 5, 2025 at 8:06 pm #17298014 | |
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Otto |
Hello, I am sorry for the troubles 🙁 Please try the following: Best Regards, |
| August 5, 2025 at 11:33 pm #17298262 | |
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farshadS |
Thanks Otto. After 're-registering' our key, we still get "Out of Credits for Automatic Translation". Upon selecting the orange "Fix Now", we are presented modal options: "Get more credits" or ""Nevermind". Again, we just purchased the plugin a couple days ago. We attempted to translate our only 14 webpages. Why isn't our 'credits' not translating? Why do we need credits upon new plugin purchase? |
| August 6, 2025 at 1:31 pm #17299677 | |
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Otto |
Hello, Thanks for testing, and please apologize for the inconveniences. This should be a smooth process. And unless there is some hidden content or the word count was wrong, the credits should be enough to translate 14 pages. I'd like to take a better look at the issue. Is it possible for you to provide me with temporary access to your site? The information you will enter is private, which means only you and I can see and have access to it. **IMPORTANT** Best Regards, |
| August 6, 2025 at 4:44 pm #17300463 | |
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Otto |
Hello, Thanks. You don't have many pages, but you are translating into a few languages. It looks like the credits were consumed, you can check how much each page costed in WPML -> Translation Management -> Translation tools -> Automatic translation usage reports Here you have an explanation and a calculator of credits usage and costs: I do suggest you to switch to pay-as-you-go, which offers better prices than prepaid credits. Let me know if you have any doubts or if you find any discrepancies between credits added and consumed. Best Regards, |
| August 6, 2025 at 8:58 pm #17300806 | |
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farshadS |
We don't understand. How can our credits be used up when we just started. We paid £99 ($134) for the plugin. That's the price of Microsoft' Windows operating system. Why is there still a payment to translate? Why!? Doesn't it start with 80,000 credits? We only have 12 core pages. This feels like a scam. Please explain. |
| August 7, 2025 at 1:07 pm #17302658 | |
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Otto |
Hi, First off, I’m really sorry this felt like an unpleasant surprise. I completely understand how frustrating it is to purchase a plugin and then immediately run into extra costs you didn’t expect. Let me clarify why that happens and what we’ve done to make sure you can keep translating without interruption. Why are there extra charges for automatic translation? * WPML license vs. translation credits * How credits are used * Example: 1 000 words on a page × 3 target languages = 3 000 words translated. * Manual vs. automatic translation --- What happened in your case The page custom-options has 3120 words. And you use the PTC translation engine that charges 4 credits per word: 1. The starter credits were indeed consumed by the first round of page translations. There are less expensive (but offer lower quality translation engines available for you to use). --- I added 70 000 extra credits I am sorry for the misunderstanding, so I’ve topped up your account with an additional **70 000 credits** at no charge. You only need to assign them to your site: 1. Log in to WPML.org → My Account. --- How to keep costs predictable * **Pay-as-you-go**: Consider enabling Pay-as-you-Go under **WPML → Translation Management → Tools → Payment & Settings**. It’s cheaper than prepaid bundles and includes 2 000 free words every month. You can also set a monthly spending cap so there are no surprises. --- Not a scam—just machine-translation costs I realize this may still feel counter-intuitive, especially when comparing the price to something like Windows. The key difference is that Windows doesn’t pay a third-party service every time you translate a sentence. WPML acts as a bridge to those services and bundles an initial quota, but ongoing usage incurs real-time costs from the translation providers themselves. I hope this clears things up. Please go ahead and assign the new credits, and let me know if anything looks off or if you have more questions. I’m here to help. Best regards, |
| August 7, 2025 at 7:36 pm #17303946 | |
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farshadS |
How do I stop and delete the current translations? We want to choose Google translation engine instead of PTC for it's lower credit per word rate. Thanks for crediting back 70k. Now that we better understand WPML, we feel it's best to completely reset the plugin-deleting everything including translations and databases. With a cleaner slate, we can begin to meticulously choose the content, number of language in order to better manage the cost (credits). How do we uninstall WPML include all associated files and database? And then reinstall it. |
| August 7, 2025 at 8:11 pm #17304041 | |
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Otto |
Hi, There is no need to reset and reinstall WPML. It's possible to do so, but I advise against it. I'll explain why and what I suggest instead. Here’s the quickest way to switch to Google Translate, stop any remaining PTC jobs, and slim down to only the languages you really need, without wiping the whole setup: --- ## 1 · Switch the site to Google Translate 1. **WP-Admin → WPML → Settings → Automatic Translation** --- ## 2 · Cancel any jobs still in the queue 1. **WPML → Translation Management → Translation jobs** --- ## 3 · Re-translate only what you need 1. In **Pages** (or **Posts**), tick any page you’d like to redo. --- ### If you want to translate into fewer languages 1. **WPML → Languages → Site Languages** ---
* **Keeps what you like**: Any good PTC translations remain intact and editable. Let me know if this makes sense to you, or if you still rather remove WPML and re-install it. Best Regards, |
| August 7, 2025 at 9:39 pm #17304147 | |
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farshadS |
Hi. After logging in on WPML.org, I don't see... 2. Find your domain *tk2020.trak-kit.com* |
| August 8, 2025 at 12:22 pm #17305371 | |
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Otto |
Hello, I recorded a video to show you where you should look for your site to add the credits available in your account to the site: Best Regards, |
| August 8, 2025 at 3:32 pm #17305928 | |
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farshadS |
Thanks Otto. But we noticed we can only add 62,500 credits instead of the 70,000 you mentioned. |
| August 8, 2025 at 3:44 pm #17305934 | |
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farshadS |
We also noticed, that when we canceled the translation jobs, we're getting an error on two of the pages that was prior in progress. The url of the pages displays page ids instead of the permalink url string. The pages are These are also tagged as 'draft' (see attached). But there's no way to publish them so they're not 'drafts'. Normall, in wordpress admin, the right column control changing the page from 'draft' to 'published'. But these button are not even there. |
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