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mayo 6, 2023 en 2:16 pm #13598567

joaquimP-2

Hola,

Me dijeron esta solución en soporte inglés pero ya cerré el ticket, por favor lo podéis mirar ?
Para traducir contenido en el editor wordpress manual, de una manera entiendo masiva o automatica. Pero he estado probando y el botón de translate automatically no me sale.

Desconozco el ATE, ya que no se como se pueden montar las fotos, y desconozco el panel. Ya que mi contenido está en WP editor, estoy buscando maneras alternativas.

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2. If you are using the WordPress editor
In this case, as mentioned, you can't switched to ATE because you might lose your previous translations (and again, you can't pick a different editor per language).

But I have a workaround for you.
- Keep ATE disabled, keep using WordPress
- Go to "WPML > Translation Management"
- Select the pages you want to translate
- Below the listing, pick "Translate" only the new languages and "Do nothing" for the old languages
- Then choose "Translate Automatically"
See screenshot for better understanding. As recommended by Ilyes test it out first with a single page.

Joaquín

mayo 8, 2023 en 4:51 pm #13607647

Nicolas V.
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Idiomas: Inglés (English ) Francés (Français )

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Hola Joaquim,

Te dejo un vidéo demo de como usar la traducción automática con el editor WordPress.

enlace oculto

Me comentas si tienes preguntas.
Saludos,
Nico

mayo 8, 2023 en 6:04 pm #13608097

joaquimP-2

Thank you so much Nicolas for the video,

Is this translation reliable ? Is it of the same quality as using ATE ?
I understand that it is, since it uses credits. But I understand that I won't have the spell checker since I use WordPress Editor.
If it is not a good quality I have some alternatives:
I was thinking of doing everything manually, page by page. Translate with the paid deepl translator (independently of wpml) and pass it a filter of an error checking program.

What do you think ?

Joaquín

mayo 8, 2023 en 10:36 pm #13609169

Nicolas V.
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Idiomas: Inglés (English ) Francés (Français )

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Hello,

Let me clarify few points:
- Using "WPML > Translation Management" let you send translation jobs to Automatic translation which uses ATE regardless of the editor you use in your pages (ATE / WordPress)

- Automatic translations are made in ATE and are powered by translation engines: DeepL, Google or Microsoft (DeepL being the default engine). Those are external services and that's why you're charged credits for it.

- So basically you already benefit from DeepL engine together with ATE features such as translation memory that will reduce the cost of translations or the glossary that will allow to register specific terms and their translation (think of brands that you don't want to translate for example)
Ref:
https://wpml.org/documentation/translating-your-contents/how-wpml-keeps-track-of-your-translations/
https://wpml.org/documentation/translating-your-contents/advanced-translation-editor/how-to-create-and-manage-glossary-entries/

- Then, as you can see in the video, you can review and edit/approve automatic translations.
Note that you can hire a reviewer to approve those translations
Ref:
https://wpml.org/documentation/automatic-translation/how-to-review-automatic-translations-on-your-site/
https://wpml.org/documentation/reviewers/how-to-work-as-a-reviewer/

- Once those automatic translations are approved/published, they are saved in the database and you can open them / edit them using the WordPress editor.

A last thought: If I understand well, you're willing to go page by page. In that case you can also consider switching completely to ATE! Remember that I recommended this workaround (using Translation management to get automatic translations) to prevent you from losing translations already made in the WordPress editor.
Again, it really depends of what you prefer. With this workaround you can still use the WordPress editor and get automatic translation. Now if you want to change your workflow, it's up to you 😉

Nico

mayo 9, 2023 en 8:02 pm #13617321

joaquimP-2

Hello Nicolas,
Thanks you for all your explanations.

One question, does your wpml translation editor (snap attached) support automatic translations?
The WordPress editor does as you told me, but as per I see wpml editor does not support automatic translations (automatic translations button does not appear to send the translations).

Thank you,
Joaquín

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mayo 9, 2023 en 8:06 pm #13617351

joaquimP-2

I have everything Updated I think. In WP I see the button but not for this editor wpml.

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mayo 10, 2023 en 5:50 pm #13625953

Nicolas V.
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Hi,

There is a small confusion here. Let me rephrase my answers and let me know if it's not clear:

- When editing a page in the sidebar (screenshot you sent) you have two options: using our editor or using WordPress editor.
- The ONLY editor that will allow you to use Automatic translation is ATE

The workaround that I give you is a "hack" that allows you to send your pages to automatic translation even if the WordPress editor is selected. Basically the automatic translation will still happen in ATE but then, once the translation is published, you can access it from the WordPress editor.

So, absolutely YES, you can use ATE to get automatic translations - that's actually the "normal" way to get them. The one I provided you is a workaround 😉

The confusion might come from the fact that you're trying to get automatic translation from the page itself. There are two options to send your page to automatic translation:
1. You can go to "WPML > Translation Management" like I explain before. (The advantage here is that you can send your pages in bulk).
2. If you are using ATE, then you can enter the editor and click the button to get the page translated automatically.

Let have a look to our documentation below to see screenshots and have a better understanding (section "Translating Individual Pages, Posts, and Other Content Automatically")
https://wpml.org/documentation/automatic-translation/#translating-individual-pages-posts-and-other-content-automatically

Nico

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