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Supporter timezone: Europe/Madrid (GMT+02:00)
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Last updated by Dan 20 minutes ago.
Assisted by: Carlos Rojas.
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August 19, 2025 at 11:06 am #17330921 | |
Dan |
Background of the issue: Symptoms: Questions: Let me know if you need access to our dev site at cfdev3.internetsociety.org |
August 19, 2025 at 11:19 am #17330936 | |
Carlos Rojas WPML Supporter since 03/2017
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: Europe/Madrid (GMT+02:00) |
Hello, Please follow these steps: Can you tell me the results of the steps described above? Regards, |
August 19, 2025 at 11:39 am #17330963 | |
Dan |
Thank you Carlos, I have tried that but in case of the French translations, the fields in the right column of the translation editor show up as empty while the page is already translated. For the Spanish translation, the right column shows up up in English while this one is also already translated. Wouldn't it be best to give you a user to verify the issue directly? Thanks again, |
August 19, 2025 at 12:21 pm #17331176 | |
Carlos Rojas WPML Supporter since 03/2017
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: Europe/Madrid (GMT+02:00) |
Hi Henri, I have set your next message private so you can securely share the access credentials to the site. Please confirm you have created a full site backup that you can restore if necessary. Looking forward to your message. |
August 19, 2025 at 12:58 pm #17331407 | |
Carlos Rojas WPML Supporter since 03/2017
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: Europe/Madrid (GMT+02:00) |
Hi Henri, I have run some troubleshooting steps and added some translation credits. Then I sent the post for automatic translation, and now the post is translated. Can you confirm that the issue is solved? |
August 19, 2025 at 1:13 pm #17331515 | |
Dan |
Thanks Carlos, If I hit the translate button, it will just do "translate" and end up on the same page with the same message "WPML tried to translate this page three times and failed. To get it fixed, contact WPML support" Another example is this page that is already translated: Also, what were your "Troubleshooting steps" that you run exaclty? Thanks! |
August 20, 2025 at 8:03 am #17333415 | |
Dan |
Good morning Carlos, I see you are based in Madrid and I am in Switzerland - same timezone thus. It would be lovely if we could nail this down together today. |
August 20, 2025 at 9:43 am #17333589 | |
Carlos Rojas WPML Supporter since 03/2017
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: Europe/Madrid (GMT+02:00) |
Hi Henri, 1.- I can't find the first post you mentioned. The second one: hidden link is already translated, and I can correctly update its translations to FR and ES. Do you have any issues updating the translations of this post? 2.- Here are the troubleshooting steps I ran on your site: https://wpml.org/documentation/support/wpml-troubleshooting-options/ |
August 20, 2025 at 10:21 am #17333657 | |
Dan |
Thanks Carlos for the troubleshooting steps. I tried them but it didn't fix my page that you can also find at hidden link - try to click on "Modifier la traduction" and you will see that it will keep staying on the same page but the url slightly changes to hidden link Further, when I hit "Modifier la page" it will open the page in the normal block editor with correct French content. Your post (French version) hidden link works well and as expected when I hit the button "Modifier la traduction" Note that my badly working example is a "Page" and yours is a "Post" Further, I followed this document https://wpml.org/home/minimum-requirements/collation-and-charset/ So the issue is really easy to reproduce. |
August 20, 2025 at 10:35 am #17333748 | |
Carlos Rojas WPML Supporter since 03/2017
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: Europe/Madrid (GMT+02:00) |
Hi Henri, To translate the page, I recommended going to WPML -> Translation Management (I wrote dashboard by mistake) and sending the page for translation there. This will overwrite any pending translation job for that same page. Also, it seems this page was translated manually (using the WordPress Editor), which is the reason why you can see the translated content when editing the page manually. In any case, I recommend updating the translation via WPML -> Translation Management |
August 20, 2025 at 11:16 am #17333877 | |
Dan |
Thanks Carlos, Also I don't see the page 2023 Year in Review (French version) under wpml -> Translation Management. I can see the Spanish version under wpml -> translation queue only I could also mention this example at hidden link There is definitely a bigger issue that needs to be fixed. Many pages seem to be affected. How do we proceed for this? Would it make sense to have a video call? If yes, here is my zoom: hidden link Once we have solved it here we will need to fix the same issues in production. |
August 20, 2025 at 11:34 am #17333938 | |
Carlos Rojas WPML Supporter since 03/2017
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: Europe/Madrid (GMT+02:00) |
Hi Henri, I have two questions: 1.- Was the content translated manually, using the WordPress Editor, or using the Advanced translation Editor? 2.- Did the issue start after you applied the workaround to the database? |
August 20, 2025 at 12:06 pm #17334150 | |
Dan |
1. I would say using the legacy (Classic translation editor). The is now still the default editor on our production site - the advanced translation editor was enabled on that cfdev3 site for troubleshooting purposes. The same issue exists on production, i.e. the French column in the editor is either empty or in English while it appears all translated on the frontend. 2.- No it existed already. The workaround to the database was also part of my troubleshooting updates. This is why I am suggesting to load again our production database, that way you can really look at production conditions -> please let me know if that would make sense for you. Thanks! |
August 20, 2025 at 12:09 pm #17334152 | |
Carlos Rojas WPML Supporter since 03/2017
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: Europe/Madrid (GMT+02:00) |
Hi Henri, Yes, please, restore the production database to double-check the issue. |
August 20, 2025 at 12:41 pm #17334251 | |
Dan |
Hi Carlos, this is now the same database then production. I cleared the database cache, cloudflare cache and made all files owners correctly to www-data:www-data I am not changing anything for now - over to you now! |