I've got some pages I manually translated before I trusted the system. Now I want to let the ATE keep them updated for me, How do I go about making that switch. I realize it involves having the ATE re-translate the entire page, but I'm not sure the best approach.
The best way to go about this would be to send the page for translation again and letting ATE re do it since the 2 methods of translations (manual vs ATE) do not communicate with each other.
Regarding your second comment about the page being created in the secondary language first and then translated into the original one, what you can do is disconnect the two, and re connect them making the original language the default language
since you will be re translating with automatic translation (ATE), you can simply delete the secondary language version and emtpy the trash then go to the original language and add a translation (I'd pick this method)
Thanks I was considering deleting the translating page, but wasn't sure if that would send your tool into a tailspin or anything. Good to know that's safe.
I discovered a new problem where a page appear to have been written in the translated language and then translated to English. So now WPML considers the Icelandic page origional language, and English translated language, while 99% og the other page are the opposite. Is there an easy way to fix this, or do I simply have to copy then English page into a new page and retranslate it into Icelandic?
Also I found an even weirder case. Someone wrote a page in English, flagged it as Icelandic, translated it into Icelandic and flagged it as English. How they managed to mess it up so badly I have no idea. Any way to fix that without a lot of copy paste?
We can manuall adjust the language of the page by disconnecting translations.
Once you disconnect them either by deleting (make sure to empty trash) or 'disconnecting' then it gives you the option to change the language assigned.
If you wish, you can share with me the URLs in question and I can screen recording the way to do this. (it's explained in our documentation above but i find that seeing the video is usually easier understood)
Also, moving forward it's good practice with WPML to always create new content under the language that is considered the "default" language of your site.
So yeah I always create and maintain content under the origional language and translate into the secondary language. I fired a web master around a year ago and I'm still finding things he goofed up. Speaking of which, is there an easy way to find all the content that were created in the secondary language so I fix them all now and not have to stumble on them when I'm updating them.
The article you sent me only discusses how to connect page, not how to disconnect them. I don't see any options there to disconnect pages. I prefer clear written instructions, with maybe a screenshot or two over a video. I made you a little video though demonstrating what I'm seeing. hidden link
Here are the example URLs hidden link
English side with the page in Icelandic hidden link
Icelandic side with the page in English hidden link
Just completed an audit and found that the home page was written in the secondary language and then translated, as well as hidden link.
You guys have access to one if not two of our staging sites, while they haven't been refreshed for a bit, you should still be able to see this issue as this has been there for months and I'm just now noticing it.
This helped a lot, thank you. I think have all these oddities straightened out. One final question about something I noticed that seems a bit strange but not sure what to make of it.
When looking at all pages, filtered for only english, all entries have a pencil in the language column telling me they have a connected translation and no need to update.
If I switch to filter on icelandic pages, most of them are exactly the same, with one exception. One of the pages has the circuilar arrow thing indicating an update is needed. When I hover over it, it says "update english translation".
I have come across this before, and found that the they were pages that had been origionally created in Icelandic. Once I used your process above to disconnect and reconnect, that fixed it.
However this page does seem to be correctly identified as a translation. See attached screenshot. Why would a translation be saying the origional language needs to be updated?
Another weirdness I just noticed, hopefully it's OK that I add it here, instead of creating a new case. I have a page that is set to be duplicated. This page was written in English and I want it to show up in English even when switch to the Icelandic side. I have a note at the top of the page explaining to the reader why I'm doing this. This works beautifully for the most part. The only thing that is weird is that the feature image shows up on the origional one, but not on the duplicated one. What could be going on here? See attached screenshot for confirmation that it is set to duplicate and that there is a featured image. You can see the impacted page at hidden link and notice how it does not have the feature image that is visiable when you switch to English. As you switch between the two you should notice it is identical except for the lack of feater image.
On the first issue, already tried to update both the origional or translated page, no change. When I say I updated, I went into edit mode and clicked on save without making any changes. Other issues, such as it refusing to let me edit non-translatable attributes on the origional page, saying it was a translation were fixed through this method.
As far as the issue of the image not appearing on the duplicate, I went into edit on the duplicate and the only thing in the language box was a warning and button to switch to translate indipendently. While I was in there I noticed that feature image wasn't set. So I went to set it but got an error about needing to switch to translate indepentently, so I cancelled out of that. Apperantly that was enough to whatever was stuck, unstuck, because now the image is showing up and the page is still showing as duplicate.
Glad to hear that the image issue has been resolved, please do let me know if this issue repeats as we should further investigate if it does.
(for example, create a page, add the image and test duplication)
Regarding the first item, I don't believe it's going to cause any issues and could possibly dismissed, however, I'd be happy to take a closer look at the backend if needed and also review the database for this entry to make sure all looks OK.
