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Problem:
The client was experiencing issues with the heading and menu items on the Dutch translated pages of their website. They wanted the Dutch pages to use the same heading and menu as the original English pages.
Solution:
1. We duplicated the header to ensure the same styling is used in both languages.
2. We identified that the menus showing up were due to the use of the "menu sync" option. To address the missing buttons and to have more control over the menu, we suggested looking at our documentation on translating menus.
3. For the client's specific needs, we recommended using the "Fully custom method" for translating menus, as detailed in our documentation here: Fully custom method. We also advised creating a full website backup before making changes.

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Last updated by Mihai Apetrei 1 year, 3 months ago.

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March 7, 2024 at 7:26 pm #15386445

emmav-9

I am translating my website into Dutch. On the Dutch translated pages there is a different heading. see screenshot of a page in the original English language and a screenshot of the Dutch translation.

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screenshot header.png
screenshot header original.png
March 7, 2024 at 7:42 pm #15386485

Mihai Apetrei
WPML Supporter since 03/2018

Languages: English (English )

Timezone: Europe/Bucharest (GMT+03:00)

Hi there.

1. So, from my understanding, you would like to use the same heading style for both languages, correct? Please confirm.

2. I would also like to request temporary access (wp-admin and FTP) to your site to take a better look at the issue. You will find the needed fields for this below the comment area when you log in to leave your next reply. The information you will enter is private which means only you and I can see and have access to it.

Our Debugging Procedures

I will be checking various settings in the backend to see if the issue can be resolved. Although I won't be making changes that affect the live site, it is still good practice to backup the site before providing us access. In the event that we do need to debug the site further, I will duplicate the site and work in a separate, local development environment to avoid affecting the live site.

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We have strict policies regarding privacy and access to your information. Please see:
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- Please make a backup of the site files and database before providing us access.

- If you do not see the wp-admin/FTP fields this means your post & website login details will be made PUBLIC. DO NOT post your website details unless you see the required wp-admin/FTP fields. If you do not, please ask me to enable the private box.

The private box looks like this: hidden link

I will be waiting for your response.

Kind regards,
Mihai Apetrei

March 7, 2024 at 8:39 pm #15386777

Mihai Apetrei
WPML Supporter since 03/2018

Languages: English (English )

Timezone: Europe/Bucharest (GMT+03:00)

It seems that you have to approve the login.

Screenshot 2024-03-07 at 21.39.25.png
March 7, 2024 at 8:45 pm #15386794

Mihai Apetrei
WPML Supporter since 03/2018

Languages: English (English )

Timezone: Europe/Bucharest (GMT+03:00)

And it also seems that it resets pretty quickly so now, for example, I have to re-send a code.

Maybe you can change that from the one.com account settings?

March 7, 2024 at 8:47 pm #15386797

emmav-9

can you please try again?

March 7, 2024 at 8:48 pm #15386799

Mihai Apetrei
WPML Supporter since 03/2018

Languages: English (English )

Timezone: Europe/Bucharest (GMT+03:00)

Tried again now.

Same notice.

March 7, 2024 at 8:49 pm #15386801

Mihai Apetrei
WPML Supporter since 03/2018

Languages: English (English )

Timezone: Europe/Bucharest (GMT+03:00)

Ok, I think you approved it. Now I'm in.

I am spending more time on this and I will get back to you as soon as I have more feedback.

I will leave the ticket assigned to myself for the moment.

Kind regards,
Mihai

March 7, 2024 at 8:55 pm #15386837

emmav-9

ok great, thank you

March 7, 2024 at 8:59 pm #15386840

Mihai Apetrei
WPML Supporter since 03/2018

Languages: English (English )

Timezone: Europe/Bucharest (GMT+03:00)

Hi there.

I duplicated the header so that we are using the same styling in both languages.

You can see it showing like in the EN version now:
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Mihai

March 7, 2024 at 9:02 pm #15386841

emmav-9

that is already looking better. the style is the same. However the menu items are different. are you still working on that?

March 7, 2024 at 9:07 pm #15386846

Mihai Apetrei
WPML Supporter since 03/2018

Languages: English (English )

Timezone: Europe/Bucharest (GMT+03:00)

The menu is the same one you were using in the initial screenshot that you sent in the first message of this ticket.

You want to have the same English menu on NL, too? Or what menu do you want to use there?

March 7, 2024 at 9:12 pm #15386864

Mihai Apetrei
WPML Supporter since 03/2018

Languages: English (English )

Timezone: Europe/Bucharest (GMT+03:00)

The menus showing up are the ones that are existing here because you used the "menu sync" option:
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So there is still no translation for the other pages, that's why some buttons are still missing.

If you want to set up a different menu for NL or have more control, please take a look at our documentation below:
https://wpml.org/documentation/getting-started-guide/translating-menus/

I think you will find that super helpful!

March 7, 2024 at 9:15 pm #15386867

emmav-9

On the translated pages I would like to use the heading and menu as shown on the (original) English pages. see screenshot

screenshot header original.png
March 7, 2024 at 9:20 pm #15386902

Mihai Apetrei
WPML Supporter since 03/2018

Languages: English (English )

Timezone: Europe/Bucharest (GMT+03:00)

I see.

Then, from my understanding, you will need to use the "Fully custom method" explained here:
https://wpml.org/documentation/getting-started-guide/translating-menus/#fully-custom-create-menus-manually

If you follow those steps, you should be able to serve whatever buttons you want on the menu area from the NL language.

My recommendation is to first create a full website backup so that you can easily restore to in case you change your mind later but I think I understood what you want correctly. 🙂

March 7, 2024 at 9:44 pm #15386923

emmav-9

thank you so much for your help this evening!