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October 23, 2024 at 9:19 am #16320889

Osama Mersal
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Languages: English (English ) Arabic (العربية )

Timezone: Africa/Cairo (GMT+02:00)

Hi,

Sure, I'll keep it open.

Best regards,
Osama

November 24, 2024 at 3:11 pm #16437189

John-Pierre Cornelissen

Hi, any news on this? It's been over a months since this issue was reported by your developers to DeepL.

November 26, 2024 at 9:52 am #16443739

Osama Mersal
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Arabic (العربية )

Timezone: Africa/Cairo (GMT+02:00)

Hi,

I'm afraid I don't have an update regarding the issue yet.

Best regards,
Osama

November 26, 2024 at 10:19 am #16443877

John-Pierre Cornelissen

Can you please check, because it's ridiculous that such a big bug with the glossary takes such a long time to get fixed.

Thank you

November 28, 2024 at 11:23 am #16454587

Osama Mersal
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Arabic (العربية )

Timezone: Africa/Cairo (GMT+02:00)

Hi,

Sorry for the late reply. I checked with our Dev team, and there has been no update regarding this issue.

Best regards,
Osama

November 28, 2024 at 12:39 pm #16455034

John-Pierre Cornelissen

Did they contact DeepL again?

It's not acceptable that this is taken so long.

November 29, 2024 at 3:17 pm #16460364

Osama Mersal
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Arabic (العربية )

Timezone: Africa/Cairo (GMT+02:00)

Hi,

They didn't get an update from DeeopL regarding the issue.

Best regards,
Osama

November 29, 2024 at 8:24 pm #16461068

John-Pierre Cornelissen

Hi,

Can't they ask for an update? I mean, WPML is a big client of them, then you may expect a quicker response.

Thanks
JP

November 30, 2024 at 3:32 pm #16462074

Osama Mersal
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Arabic (العربية )

Timezone: Africa/Cairo (GMT+02:00)

Hi,

I don't know the exact flow of the conversation between our team and the DeepL team, but I asked for an update, and our team told me that they don't have one from DeepL yet.

Thanks for your understanding

Best regards,
Osama

December 1, 2024 at 12:05 pm #16462920

John-Pierre Cornelissen

But my question to you was if they (your team) can ask DeepL for an update.

I mean, it's unacceptable that a major issue like this doesn't getfixed. WPML is a big client of them, so you may expect a quicker response.

December 2, 2024 at 9:48 am #16464950

Osama Mersal
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Arabic (العربية )

Timezone: Africa/Cairo (GMT+02:00)

Hi,

I checked with our Dev team and waiting for their reply.

Best regards,
Osama

December 3, 2024 at 11:47 am #16471373

Osama Mersal
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Arabic (العربية )

Timezone: Africa/Cairo (GMT+02:00)

Hi,

Thanks for your patience. DeepL didn't answer, but our Dev team checked the issue again, and they think your issue might be a separate variation from the ones we knew about.

Would you please share your site's access details and the page that contains this glossary term so that our team can investigate the issue further?

Your answer will be private, meaning only you and I can access it.

❌ Please backup your database and website ❌

Thanks for your cooperation

Best regards,
Osama

December 3, 2024 at 1:03 pm #16472007

Osama Mersal
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Arabic (العربية )

Timezone: Africa/Cairo (GMT+02:00)

Hi John-Pierre,

Thanks for the access details and examples. We will update the ticket with our findings.

Thanks,
Osama

December 4, 2024 at 11:18 am #16476159

Osama Mersal
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Arabic (العربية )

Timezone: Africa/Cairo (GMT+02:00)

Hi John-Pierre,

Our ATE team has checked the issue and found the following: The main issue here is that you seem to have a lot of glossary entries that are basically forcing a specific translation on DeepL.

When DeepL knows you're forcing a glossary entry translation, it tries to position it somewhere, which could result in the entry being positioned differently.

To fix this issue, please check the glossary, delete any unneeded entries, and leave only the important ones.

We can help you delete the entries, but we need your help knowing which ones.

Best regards,
Osama

December 4, 2024 at 11:55 am #16476359

John-Pierre Cornelissen

Thanks for checking. That's a weird behaviour. These specific entries are names of locations and rental properties that should stay as is, without translation. It doesn't make sense that a glossary term also puts that word in a wrong position in the sentence, causing a completely wrong translation. The glossary is there to make sure that certain words are translated correctly, it shouldn't result in a different and grammatically incorrect sentence structure.

I know there are a lot of glossary entries*, but it's not that the examples I gave contain all of them. Most of them only contain one or two glossary terms. Which is exactly what the glossary is meant for, right? If a sentence only contains one term, then why would that term be positioned in the wrong place?

Based on the examples I gave, can your ATE team be a bit more specific on which glossary terms causes the issue? I mean, if the sentence contains the name of a city like in the third sentence, and that name is the only word in the sentence that's also a glossary term, then why is that word placed as the first word in the sentence? Which other terms play a role in this? Or, how would I know what terms should be removed?

Note that I have never had this issue before. It started after the ATE update that added bigger segments, dark mode etc.

* As for the number of glossary entries, I agree it's a lot and I don't like it either. The problem here is that the glossary (and TM) is shared across all connected sites. The reason these sites are all connected is because I have a single pay-as-you go account. Primarily to ensure that I get a single monthly invoice instead of a separate one (10+) for each site. The ideal way for me would be to have a shared pay as you go account for invoicing with a separate glossary (and TM) for each site. Is that possible?

Thanks
JP