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Last updated by Itamar 4 days, 20 hours ago.

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March 20, 2025 at 12:58 am #16837693

ronaldT-5

Background of the issue:
I am trying to make WPML work as expected on my website, hidden link.

Symptoms:
I am experiencing an ongoing malfunction with WPML, which I find too obvious to ignore. After making changes in ATE, I notice that sometimes those changes do not show up in the translated page. So, I have found a workaround to reset WPML by making a small change in the page title. After that action is done, I get some rows with French text to be translated back to French text. This happens mainly with the images texts.

Questions:
What could be causing the ongoing malfunction with WPML?
How can I resolve the issues to achieve a bug-free WPML experience?
When are you going to fix it? This has been an on-going issue for more than a year, and yet it is very much active.

March 20, 2025 at 12:59 am #16837709

ronaldT-5

Actually, the exact page is hidden link

March 20, 2025 at 12:04 pm #16839848

Alejandro
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Italian (Italiano )

Timezone: Europe/Rome (GMT+02:00)

Hello!

What you are experiencing is caused by a "different job ID" assigned in the database than the one from the "edit" of the translation.

This could happen for many reasons: server-side cache, query caching, changes made in the background via cronjobs (not necessarily visual changes, but changes in the database) and many more scenarios.

Here's the thing, the translations are done by "sessions" ("Translation Jobs") and these sessions finish when you click the complete button. You can edit it right away and it will still work and update everything because there hasn't been any change, thus the last session is still the same as before OR because you maybe fixed a typo on that page and the system created a new session (Translation Job).

When you make a change to anything in your page, whether it's visual or not, that will require a different session on your end and that means that in those cases you should send it again to translate. It's Probably faster to do in WPML > Translation Management, once you send it there you can open it either in WPML > Translations or from the page as you did before.

Thanks to this support Ticket I'll try to see if we can improve this workflow to make it smoother 🙂 I can't promise anything at the moment But I'll give it a try since we're always looking for ways to improve.

Regards,

Alejandro Sanchez
Deputy Support Manager.

March 27, 2025 at 8:29 pm #16870449

ronaldT-5

Yes, it sure would be great if you guys can improve upon it.

>It's Probably faster to do in WPML > Translation Management,<

What other ways are there?

March 30, 2025 at 7:20 pm #16876958

Itamar
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Hebrew (עברית )

Timezone: Asia/Jerusalem (GMT+03:00)

Hi,

I'll continue to help you with this issue.

Please give me access to your site so I can see this problem when translating this page: hidden link.

I'll also consult with Alejandro about it.

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Regards,
Itamar.

March 31, 2025 at 7:21 am #16877630

Itamar
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Hebrew (עברית )

Timezone: Asia/Jerusalem (GMT+03:00)

Hi, and thanks for the access details.

When I checked the Lanaudiere Home Alarm System page, I could see that its translation into French was 100% complete. Please see the attached screenshot.

What are the steps I need to take to see this problem?
In other words, what do I need to do to see that making a change in ATE is not reflected on the front end?

Thanks,
Itamar.

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March 31, 2025 at 2:39 pm #16879963

ronaldT-5

I suggest you read my initial post.

See the screenshot below and tell me why the translation is the same as the source text.

Screenshot 2025-03-31 at 10.36.56 AM.jpg
April 1, 2025 at 7:27 pm #16884473

Itamar
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Hebrew (עברית )

Timezone: Asia/Jerusalem (GMT+03:00)

Thanks.

I checked the issue on your site by editing the translation of this page.
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You described the following issue:

"After making changes in ATE, I notice that sometimes those changes do not show up in the translated page."

I was unable to see this problem. But you also wrote it happens sometimes.

I could see the problem with the media text in the screenshot.

I've escalated this issue to our second-tier supporters and await their reply.
I'll update you here once I have a reply from them.

I appreciate your patience.
Itamar.

April 1, 2025 at 8:07 pm #16884673

ronaldT-5

Thanks, although I was already talking to 2nd tier support earlier.

April 1, 2025 at 8:13 pm #16884702

Itamar
Supporter

Languages: English (English ) Hebrew (עברית )

Timezone: Asia/Jerusalem (GMT+03:00)

Hi,

I'm in contact with Alejandro, the second-tier supporter who replied to this ticket. He is involved in the escalation process.

Regards,
Itamar.