To translate media files and filenames

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Supporter timezone: Asia/Jerusalem (GMT+03:00)

Tagged: Compatibility

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Last updated by Itamar 1 day, 4 hours ago.

Assisted by: Itamar.

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March 26, 2025 at 6:17 pm #16864990
sauliusD	Background of the issue: I am trying to translate media filenames using Phoenix Media Rename. After translating media and changing all filenames, and after running media translation index in WPML settings, original language images disappeared. The default language is Lithuanian, but the second language (English) is okay. Example pages: Default language: hidden link, Second language: hidden link. Symptoms: Original language images disappeared after translating media filenames and running media translation index. Questions: Why did the original language images disappear after translating media filenames? How can I restore the missing images in the default language?
March 30, 2025 at 7:52 pm #16877029
Itamar Supporter Languages: English (English ) Hebrew (עברית ) Timezone: Asia/Jerusalem (GMT+03:00)	Hi, We might be facing a compatibility issue with the Phoenix Media Rename plugin. Although it is officially compatible with WPML, we have not tested it since May 2021. We need to replicate this issue on a fresh WordPress installation. Then, I'll be able to escalate it to our compatibility team. For this, I created a test website with a clean WordPress install. You can access it through this link: hidden link With this link, you'll be directly logged in. I installed the Phoenix Media Rename plugin and configured WPML to use Lithuanian as the default language and English as the second language. Please let us know when everything is finished and you can replicate the problem. Important! Do not import your site to the test site. We must replicate the problem on a fresh, clean WordPress installation. Regards, Itamar.
March 31, 2025 at 12:17 pm #16879182
sauliusD	Hello, thank you. I addes some images and tried to edit names and titles with Phoenix Media rename. After renaming I have missing files in both languages. Saulius
April 1, 2025 at 4:37 pm #16883956
Itamar Supporter Languages: English (English ) Hebrew (עברית ) Timezone: Asia/Jerusalem (GMT+03:00)	Hi, Thanks for replicating the problem on the sandbox site. I've escalated this issue to our compatibility team. I'll update you here once I have news about this issue. I appreciate your patience. Itamar.
April 1, 2025 at 4:55 pm #16884056
sauliusD	Thank you. Is there an estimate, how long it could take to solve the problem?
April 2, 2025 at 7:02 am #16885524
Itamar Supporter Languages: English (English ) Hebrew (עברית ) Timezone: Asia/Jerusalem (GMT+03:00)	Hi, I'm sorry, but I don't know how long it will take to solve the problem. Our compatibility team will check it and respond in the next few days. We always do our best to fix anything we can. However, compatibility problems are not always in our hands. We might need the cooperation of the Phoenix Media Rename's developers. You can also contact them and report this problem to their support team. It may expedite the way to a solution. Regards, Itamar.
April 6, 2025 at 3:13 pm #16901472
Itamar Supporter Languages: English (English ) Hebrew (עברית ) Timezone: Asia/Jerusalem (GMT+03:00)	Hi, Our compatibility team has come up with a workaround for this issue. Here is the workaround. 1. Back up your site in case something goes wrong. 2. With a code editor, open this file: \wp-content\plugins\phoenix-media-rename\classes\class-plugins.php. 3. Look for line 131. 4. Replace: $translations = apply_filters('wpml_get_element_translations', NULL, $trid); With: $translations = apply_filters('wpml_get_element_translations', NULL, $trid, 'post_attachment'); 5. Save the file. Now, things should work, and the images will not disappear after renaming them. We must explain that when you upload an image to WordPress's media library, WPML does not duplicate the file in other languages. Instead, it creates an entry in the DB to show this image file in another language. If you need files with different names, you can use our Media Translation add-on and upload another file with a different name for the English language. You can read more about the Media Translation add-on here. https://wpml.org/documentation/getting-started-guide/media-translation/ Please let us know if this workaround works for you. Regards, Itamar.
April 10, 2025 at 4:25 am #16916418
sauliusD	Hello, after code changes it seem like it worked, but after bigger scale translations the problem still the same. We have missing a lot of images in the original language (not translated), but translated images are still there.
April 10, 2025 at 12:32 pm #16918535
Itamar Supporter Languages: English (English ) Hebrew (עברית ) Timezone: Asia/Jerusalem (GMT+03:00)	Hi, It is unclear to me if our solution helped you or not. Can you please explain what you mean by: "...after bigger scale translations the problem still the same"? I applied the workaround on the sandbox site. Are you able to replicate this on the sandbox site? What are the steps to replicate this problem? Thanks, Itamar.
April 10, 2025 at 7:36 pm #16920370
Itamar Supporter Languages: English (English ) Hebrew (עברית ) Timezone: Asia/Jerusalem (GMT+03:00)	Hi, Our compatibility second-tier supporter als asks and explains the following. Is it possible that the images were uploaded or modified using Phoenix while in the secondary language? All changes should be made from the original language to its translations. The code implementation is designed to detect updates in the original and apply them to translations. So if modifications are made directly in a translation instead of the original, they won’t be reflected. I see two possible scenarios here: The image was uploaded in Lithuanian but then modified from English (most likely case). The image was uploaded in English, but then modified from Lithuanian. The issue now is if the client changed the filename in the secondary language, then I don't see an easy way to "reconnect the original". The client will have to revert back the changes in the secondary language to match the values still stored in the original language. Regards, Itamar.