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October 15, 2025 at 6:00 pm #17488164

jonathanH-21

Hi.

That seems to have worked now, thanks.

Can you explain what was wrong so i can explain to client please?

Also, do you know why the links for the buttons were not always showing in the side-by-side editor, as this is why my client had to go back to the WordPress editor to add the links and caused the issues with the translations being overwritten.

I just need a consistent approach that my client can use to translate these posts going forward.

Thanks again for all your support.

Cheers
Jon

October 15, 2025 at 6:10 pm #17488192

Otto
WPML Supporter since 09/2015

Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español )

Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00)

Hello Jon,

I am glad it helped.

Hard to tell the root cause of the problem. But I think it's related to mixing the editors.

I understand they are doing this because they can't translate links in the buttons. But I suggest avoiding this workaround, as it creates more problems than it solves.

How to translate the link depends on how the link is inserted in the original content. But in general, links are handled automatically if the target is already translated.

If not, I suggest checking this:

1.
WPML → Settings → Translate Link Targets > Scan now and adjust links

2.
Make sure you are using relative URLs.

As I said, it should be handled automatically, but sometimes it's inserted in an element coming from an Elementor or Gutenberg add on, and it needs to be taken care of. If your client can't make it work, we are here to help 🙂

As a final note, the Advanced Translation Editor is better than the Classic Translator Editor (legacy) handling links.

Best Regards,
Otto

October 19, 2025 at 10:07 am #17496766

jonathanH-21

Hi.

Thanks for the reply.

Can you confirm what you mean by relative links? Should they not be adding the full url?

I will check the setting you suggested.

For info, as you have probably seen, they are using WP Bakery page builder to setup the English posts/pages.

Can we leave this ticket open while i go back to my client this week ad give them an update please.

Thanks again.

Jon

October 20, 2025 at 1:46 pm #17499818

Otto
WPML Supporter since 09/2015

Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español )

Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00)

Hello Jon,

By relative URL's I mean this:
/slug-of-the-page

instead of:
hidden link

For internal links, this is better so WPML understands that the URL should point to the right language and handles it automatically.

Sometimes using the full URL WPML treats it as an external link and it does not handle the language then.

Using WP Bakery shouldn't be a problem, as it is fully compatible with WPML:
https://wpml.org/plugin/wpbakery-page-builder/

The ticket will remain open for two weeks without activity, if you need more time, just drop a message here.

Best Regards,
Otto

October 27, 2025 at 1:02 pm #17521988

jonathanH-21

Hi.

Thanks for the reply.

My client is on holiday so waiting to discuss with them. Can you keep this ticket open a little longer please?

Thanks
Jon

October 27, 2025 at 2:28 pm #17522525

Otto
WPML Supporter since 09/2015

Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español )

Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00)

Hello Jon,

Thanks for the heads up. The ticket will remain open for two weeks.

Best Regards,
Otto

October 29, 2025 at 8:25 am #17528165

jonathanH-21

Hi.

I've just heard from my client. They said this:

" I just added a hyperlink, disabled the breadcrumb and added an empty space to the Community Buildings Hub Homepage and that change caused the Welsh version to unpublish itself. "

How can we stop this happening? We don't want the Welsh to be unpublished if a change is made to the English as this is causing more work.

Could you have a look at the settings on the site please?

Thanks
Jon

October 29, 2025 at 1:18 pm #17529527

Otto
WPML Supporter since 09/2015

Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español )

Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00)

Hello Jon,

I am sorry, but credentials were removed for security reasons. Can you please provide me with access again?

**IMPORTANT**
- Please make a backup of site files and database before providing us access.
- If you do not see the wp-admin/FTP fields this means your post & website login details will be made PUBLIC. DO NOT post your website details unless you see the required wp-admin/FTP fields.
- Maybe I'll need to replicate your site locally. For this, I'll need to temporarily install a plugin called “Duplicator” or "All in One WP Migration" on your site. Once the problem is resolved I will delete the local site.

Best Regards,
Otto

October 29, 2025 at 3:11 pm #17530105

jonathanH-21

I just had a message from my client, again about updating a page. See below:

I just updated the Member Area page with the resources link, and then updated the Welsh translation and added the link in the page editor (you can't add it in the translator). When I now click to view the page in Cymraeg it goes to a completely different page!

English page is hidden link

And the Welsh page it's linked to is hidden link

When it should be hidden link

Could you take a look please?

Thanks
Jon

October 29, 2025 at 4:45 pm #17530368

Otto
WPML Supporter since 09/2015

Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español )

Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00)

Hello Jon,

Thanks.

Related to the second issue, if your client keeps mixing editors, problems will keep appearing.

As I mentioned before, there are two options here:

- Use the WP editor for the translations. They'll need to retranslate and keep using it as explained here:
https://wpml.org/documentation/translating-your-contents/using-different-translation-editors-for-different-pages/

- Or try to fix the links problem, which depends on how the links are added in the original page.

The workaround your client is doing may seem to fix the issue, but it generates more problems than it fixes.

Regarding the translation unpublished issue, can you please elaborate on how the translation was done? Did they mix editors when translating it?

Best Regards,
Otto

October 30, 2025 at 1:07 pm #17532796

jonathanH-21

Hi.

Thanks for the reply.

1.
If i suggest using the WP Editor permanently for all content going forward (pages, posts, custom posts), will this delete any translations already done or will this only happen if they switch back to the side by side editor later?

I'm going to have to insist they use this process, as i think they are using a mixture of both editors and, as you say, this is causing the problems.

I've used wpml and WP Bakery together on various other sites and they have always used the WP editor. Adding the English, then choosing to "copy content to Welsh" when translating. This copies other the layout they have made in WP Bakery (english) into the Welsh page and they just add the content there.

To answer this:
"- Or try to fix the links problem, which depends on how the links are added in the original page."
The links are added as button or box elements, as part of WP Bakery.

2.
Regarding the 404 on the Welsh, yes I think they said they had to use a mixture of both editors to add a link in a box created by WP Bakery.

Can you confirm if any translations will be lost please and also explain how i can update the settings to set the WP Editor as default.

It would also be good if i can remove the option to switch the the wpml editor so my client hasn't got this option anymore.

Thanks again for your help with all this.
Jon

October 30, 2025 at 5:00 pm #17533705

Otto
WPML Supporter since 09/2015

Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español )

Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00)

Hello Jon,

No, existing translated content is not deleted when you switch the editor preference to the WordPress editor.

Changing the default editor from WPML’s Translation Editor (ATE/Classic) to the WordPress editor does not erase translated posts/pages. The translated posts remain in the database. What you do lose is the connection to ATE/CTE segment memory and the “translation job” workflow for those items. After switching, edits happen directly in the translated post (native editor), not in ATE/CTE.

BUT, if you switch back to ATE/CTE, the translated posts content may be lost.

Always take a backup before a broad workflow change.

Mixing ATE/CTE with native editor may lead to status mismatches and odd slug/permalink states—like the 404 you saw in Welsh. Moving fully to the WP Editor removes that variable.

To set the WordPress Editor as default, check this documentation:
https://wpml.org/documentation/translating-your-contents/using-different-translation-editors-for-different-pages/

There is no way to remove the option to switch back to the WPML editor 🙁

To sum up, about the existing translations when you flip the switch:
* They **stay published** as they are.
* For any item that used to open in ATE/CTE, the first time you open the translation you may see a prompt to switch editor—choose WordPress editor.
* ❌ Please make a full website backup before proceeding ❌
* If you switch back to ATE/CTE, the translated posts content may be lost.

Best Regards,
Otto

November 5, 2025 at 11:52 am #17549656

jonathanH-21

HI.

Sorry for the late reply. Can you confirm:

ATE = Advanced Translation Editor

CTE = Classic Translation Editor

Its just for when I update my client with the latest info.

November 5, 2025 at 2:03 pm #17550577

Otto
WPML Supporter since 09/2015

Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español )

Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00)

Hello Jon,

I am sorry I wasn't clear, yes, you are right:
ATE = Advanced Translation Editor
CTE = Classic Translation Editor

Best Regards,
Otto

November 5, 2025 at 3:56 pm #17551153

jonathanH-21

Ok thanks.

If i switch to the WordPress editor, will the translated posts still be linked to the English posts or will this break?

Thanks
Jon