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| October 15, 2025 at 6:00 pm #17488164 | |
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jonathanH-21 |
Hi. That seems to have worked now, thanks. Can you explain what was wrong so i can explain to client please? Also, do you know why the links for the buttons were not always showing in the side-by-side editor, as this is why my client had to go back to the WordPress editor to add the links and caused the issues with the translations being overwritten. I just need a consistent approach that my client can use to translate these posts going forward. Thanks again for all your support. Cheers |
| October 15, 2025 at 6:10 pm #17488192 | |
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Otto WPML Supporter since 09/2015
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00) |
Hello Jon, I am glad it helped. Hard to tell the root cause of the problem. But I think it's related to mixing the editors. I understand they are doing this because they can't translate links in the buttons. But I suggest avoiding this workaround, as it creates more problems than it solves. How to translate the link depends on how the link is inserted in the original content. But in general, links are handled automatically if the target is already translated. If not, I suggest checking this: 1. 2. As I said, it should be handled automatically, but sometimes it's inserted in an element coming from an Elementor or Gutenberg add on, and it needs to be taken care of. If your client can't make it work, we are here to help 🙂 As a final note, the Advanced Translation Editor is better than the Classic Translator Editor (legacy) handling links. Best Regards, |
| October 19, 2025 at 10:07 am #17496766 | |
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jonathanH-21 |
Hi. Thanks for the reply. Can you confirm what you mean by relative links? Should they not be adding the full url? I will check the setting you suggested. For info, as you have probably seen, they are using WP Bakery page builder to setup the English posts/pages. Can we leave this ticket open while i go back to my client this week ad give them an update please. Thanks again. Jon |
| October 20, 2025 at 1:46 pm #17499818 | |
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Otto WPML Supporter since 09/2015
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00) |
Hello Jon, By relative URL's I mean this: instead of: For internal links, this is better so WPML understands that the URL should point to the right language and handles it automatically. Sometimes using the full URL WPML treats it as an external link and it does not handle the language then. Using WP Bakery shouldn't be a problem, as it is fully compatible with WPML: The ticket will remain open for two weeks without activity, if you need more time, just drop a message here. Best Regards, |
| October 27, 2025 at 1:02 pm #17521988 | |
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jonathanH-21 |
Hi. Thanks for the reply. My client is on holiday so waiting to discuss with them. Can you keep this ticket open a little longer please? Thanks |
| October 27, 2025 at 2:28 pm #17522525 | |
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Otto WPML Supporter since 09/2015
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00) |
Hello Jon, Thanks for the heads up. The ticket will remain open for two weeks. Best Regards, |
| October 29, 2025 at 8:25 am #17528165 | |
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jonathanH-21 |
Hi. I've just heard from my client. They said this: " I just added a hyperlink, disabled the breadcrumb and added an empty space to the Community Buildings Hub Homepage and that change caused the Welsh version to unpublish itself. " How can we stop this happening? We don't want the Welsh to be unpublished if a change is made to the English as this is causing more work. Could you have a look at the settings on the site please? Thanks |
| October 29, 2025 at 1:18 pm #17529527 | |
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Otto WPML Supporter since 09/2015
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00) |
Hello Jon, I am sorry, but credentials were removed for security reasons. Can you please provide me with access again? **IMPORTANT** Best Regards, |
| October 29, 2025 at 3:11 pm #17530105 | |
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jonathanH-21 |
I just had a message from my client, again about updating a page. See below: I just updated the Member Area page with the resources link, and then updated the Welsh translation and added the link in the page editor (you can't add it in the translator). When I now click to view the page in Cymraeg it goes to a completely different page! English page is hidden link And the Welsh page it's linked to is hidden link When it should be hidden link Could you take a look please? Thanks |
| October 29, 2025 at 4:45 pm #17530368 | |
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Otto WPML Supporter since 09/2015
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00) |
Hello Jon, Thanks. Related to the second issue, if your client keeps mixing editors, problems will keep appearing. As I mentioned before, there are two options here: - Use the WP editor for the translations. They'll need to retranslate and keep using it as explained here: - Or try to fix the links problem, which depends on how the links are added in the original page. The workaround your client is doing may seem to fix the issue, but it generates more problems than it fixes. Regarding the translation unpublished issue, can you please elaborate on how the translation was done? Did they mix editors when translating it? Best Regards, |
| October 30, 2025 at 1:07 pm #17532796 | |
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jonathanH-21 |
Hi. Thanks for the reply. 1. I'm going to have to insist they use this process, as i think they are using a mixture of both editors and, as you say, this is causing the problems. I've used wpml and WP Bakery together on various other sites and they have always used the WP editor. Adding the English, then choosing to "copy content to Welsh" when translating. This copies other the layout they have made in WP Bakery (english) into the Welsh page and they just add the content there. To answer this: 2. Can you confirm if any translations will be lost please and also explain how i can update the settings to set the WP Editor as default. It would also be good if i can remove the option to switch the the wpml editor so my client hasn't got this option anymore. Thanks again for your help with all this. |
| October 30, 2025 at 5:00 pm #17533705 | |
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Otto WPML Supporter since 09/2015
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00) |
Hello Jon, No, existing translated content is not deleted when you switch the editor preference to the WordPress editor. Changing the default editor from WPML’s Translation Editor (ATE/Classic) to the WordPress editor does not erase translated posts/pages. The translated posts remain in the database. What you do lose is the connection to ATE/CTE segment memory and the “translation job” workflow for those items. After switching, edits happen directly in the translated post (native editor), not in ATE/CTE. BUT, if you switch back to ATE/CTE, the translated posts content may be lost. Always take a backup before a broad workflow change. Mixing ATE/CTE with native editor may lead to status mismatches and odd slug/permalink states—like the 404 you saw in Welsh. Moving fully to the WP Editor removes that variable. To set the WordPress Editor as default, check this documentation: There is no way to remove the option to switch back to the WPML editor 🙁 To sum up, about the existing translations when you flip the switch: Best Regards, |
| November 5, 2025 at 11:52 am #17549656 | |
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jonathanH-21 |
HI. Sorry for the late reply. Can you confirm: ATE = Advanced Translation Editor CTE = Classic Translation Editor Its just for when I update my client with the latest info. |
| November 5, 2025 at 2:03 pm #17550577 | |
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Otto WPML Supporter since 09/2015
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Timezone: America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires (GMT-03:00) |
Hello Jon, I am sorry I wasn't clear, yes, you are right: Best Regards, |
| November 5, 2025 at 3:56 pm #17551153 | |
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jonathanH-21 |
Ok thanks. If i switch to the WordPress editor, will the translated posts still be linked to the English posts or will this break? Thanks |