This thread is resolved. Here is a description of the problem and solution.
Problem: My links, translated in the advanced translation editors are reverting to the original ones and losing its translations.
Solution: This problem has been solved already, you don't have to do anything more than re-send your page to translate via WPML > Translation Management
Relevant Documentation: https://wpml.org/documentation/translating-your-contents/
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Last updated by Alejandro 11 months, 1 week ago.
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November 28, 2023 at 12:34 am #14935473 | |
mariannaF-4 |
The following page was translated to spanish but now it reverted back to English. hidden link |
November 28, 2023 at 2:15 pm #14940849 | |
mariannaF-4 |
We have seen this happen multiple times on different pages. I noticed this morning that this page was set to be translated automatically when no one set it to do that. Our entire site was translated manually. Why is this happening? |
November 28, 2023 at 4:23 pm #14942199 | |
Alejandro Supporter
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Italian (Italiano ) Timezone: Europe/Rome (GMT+01:00) |
Hello, Can you check in WPML > Settings if you have "translate everything" is enabled? if not, then please make sure that you disable the translation editor if you don't want to use the translation editor from WPML. here's how you can do so: https://wpml.org/documentation/translating-your-contents/using-different-translation-editors-for-different-pages/ If you do want to use it, then it's normal it will translate the page automatically (and you can see the undo button the first time you open it) but it will only do so if those pages weren't already translated. Try that out first because i suspect that you were using the native WordPress editor for the translations but you never disabled the translation editor. Let me know how it goes. |
November 28, 2023 at 6:58 pm #14943757 | |
mariannaF-4 |
I was advised to use Advanced Translation Editor eventhough everything on our website is translated manually so that is how everything was translated. Why would something revert to automatic be translated automatically when it was already translated manually? |
November 29, 2023 at 2:34 pm #14952691 | |
Alejandro Supporter
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Italian (Italiano ) Timezone: Europe/Rome (GMT+01:00) |
First of all, to avoid confusing, i'd like you to create a new page or product and then open it in the translation editor. You'll see it will be translated automatically by default and will notice the borders on the translations are a dotted blue. That's ONE type of automatic translation and will happen everytime unless you click the "undone" button and then disable that feature. Is that the one you are seeing on your products by any chance? ---------------------- If you had everything manually translated and then you used the automatic translation, then yes, you'd have to translate it again since the manually translated content won't appear in the translation editor. I'm not sure why or in what ticket you had this advise because when i search your ticket history it seems you have been using automatic translation at least for 1 month (maybe you didn't want it back then but it was not clear from the tickets i read). At the same time the only way i can think that would make someone advise you on doing that given your ticket history, would be to automate links translations that won't happen if you are manually translating a page, because, well, it's a manual translation. i'm sure there was a reason, so if you know when you were advise i can go back and check as well 🙂 Regards, |
November 29, 2023 at 2:40 pm #14952715 | |
mariannaF-4 |
This is what I see when I create a new page and go to the Translation Editor. Are you available on chat? What is your suggestion moving forward? Why would pages that were untouched revert to the english version? |
November 29, 2023 at 2:58 pm #14953071 | |
Alejandro Supporter
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Italian (Italiano ) Timezone: Europe/Rome (GMT+01:00) |
I'm not on chat, but at this point, i'd ask you to allow me access to your site and tell me which page was affected or maybe give me a few examples, as a reference so i can try to understand better what could've happened and give you a better suggestion on how to move forward. I have enabled the fields for that, so you can insert all the information privately. I suggest that you use a fake mail and assign me an admin role, so you have better control of your website (since i wouldn't be able to change my password in any way). Regards. |
November 29, 2023 at 5:42 pm #14954707 | |
mariannaF-4 |
You should be able to get in now. |
November 30, 2023 at 11:57 am #14961975 | |
Alejandro Supporter
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Italian (Italiano ) Timezone: Europe/Rome (GMT+01:00) |
Please check this video: hidden link The only probem you have is that you hadn't translated the content using the translation editor, but manually (as you mentioned) BUT you had the "translation" mode setup with the translation editor. this has not been changed recently (i went back as far as i could from the revisions dates in the database), but i suspect you used a different method to translate the pages before. You acn always use the revisions to go back to a different moment of the page if you want, so nothing is lost. I would suggest that you start using the translation editor because it will make the site way easier to maintain and maybe even faster to translate/review in the future. If you don't want that, then no problem, you can keep translating the page manually as i explained in the video and in the link i sent you a few replies ago: https://wpml.org/documentation/translating-your-contents/using-different-translation-editors-for-different-pages/ Regards. |
November 30, 2023 at 3:46 pm #14964887 | |
mariannaF-4 |
Thank you for the video. We have been using the translation editor for all of our manual translations and the automatic translation has been turned off. It could be that in the very beginning when we started building the site we used the WordPress editor to do some of the translations. That being said, we have 5 people working on the site. Is there a way to see if someone is going back and forth with the translation methods? Additionally, earlier this week we saw that one of our pages was coming up with an error when trying to use the translation editor so I went into the English version and resaved it (without making any changes). The translation editor went back to working and all the translations repopulated the segments except the links that are mostly in the button element. Any idea why that would happen? |
November 30, 2023 at 4:45 pm #14965313 | |
Alejandro Supporter
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Italian (Italiano ) Timezone: Europe/Rome (GMT+01:00) |
No no, the automatic translation that you are seeing is different, you can see the difference in the actual segments, they have a dotted border. these come from a feature called "Translation Editor by default" that we rolled out to speed up the translation process. You can see an "undo" button on top of the page when it first gets translated (you won't see it anyore if you close and open the page, for example because you're "accepting" the translations indirectly that way). Each user can select the "undo" button and then disable the Automatic Translation By Default as they wish. ---------- There isn't any way for you to see if the users are changing the settings, specially if they are set as admins since we do not track any similar actions. However if your users are not admins, then you can select if they can or can't use the translation engines from WPML > Translation Management > Tools > overview section > "Who can translate". ----------- The links should be automatically translated, so i believe that if you translate them once, thy will not appear anymore and WPML will autodetect and translate the links. if they appeared is because at that moment, the links were seen as text and not a proper link. that usually happens when a link is a relative one or is missing the trailing slash at the end of it. Regards. |
November 30, 2023 at 6:45 pm #14966491 | |
mariannaF-4 |
When did the “ Automatic Translation By Default” get rolled out? Could that have been enabled accidentally on an already manually translated page by one of our staff? —————- What we saw happen earlier this week after Ali ran a search and replace script to replace every link in the database to include a WWW is somehow it reverted back to not have the WWW on all the translated websites. The English website remained the same with the WWW, but all the translated ones reverted back somehow. We are trying to investigate how that could have happened. |
November 30, 2023 at 8:04 pm #14967179 | |
mariannaF-4 |
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December 1, 2023 at 9:40 am #14970799 | |
Alejandro Supporter
Languages: English (English ) Spanish (Español ) Italian (Italiano ) Timezone: Europe/Rome (GMT+01:00) |
It was rolled out on the advanced translation editor which has autonomous and automatic updates on our end, but it was around the time WPML 4.6.5 was rolled out. It's enabled by default on every user but it's only triggered if they open the translation editor, so if they were translating manually, then that wouldn't happen. However if you had more than one person and had the translation editor enabled as you did before, then it's very likely the translators didn't even know they had to translate the content without the translation editor and it would've been impossible for them to do it so if they weren't admins or editors. -------------- Even on your video i can see that you are still using the translation editor on the pages and other content, so before we continue, is that something you want to keep or you want to translate WITHOUT any translation editor from WPML and use WordPress' ? The reason why it got stuck (What you called a "minor glitch") happens when there are not past translation jobs/Sessions for your user which happens when: - Someone else translated the page, so the last translation session is assigned to that person |
December 1, 2023 at 3:37 pm #14974305 | |
mariannaF-4 |
We want to have our users only use the translation editor without automatic translations. How do we prevent glitches and again how could we have lost the links that were added through the translation editor like it should in the screenshot? |