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August 31, 2023 at 10:54 pm #14323859

antoniusP-2

For Mr Long Nguyen,

Dear Mr Long Nguyen,

This is also regarding bulk, in addition to the other e-mails and an overview of the experienced problems with the tests done today [different test], most related to BULK and things which go structurally wrong at this moment [the way I did the test or translations}.

Example

Cahuita Night Page Tour

You see two examples in the ATE; I have "each time manually" refreshed the language. This is a Spanish example to get the correct translation.

UK Tour Page [UK Default]
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to

Spanish Translation [translation to WPML ES not finished]
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If you read all the e-mails [this is also related to BULK Translation].

I do not see options [to select pages and translate those in BULK with Auto translation of DEEPL: my question!

a] If this is possible [outstanding question, perhaps this may prevent lots of earlier posted problems with the TEST pages [based on last year's experience] solution, please let me know.

b] If it is ONLY possible with the complete site [what I can do is, on my site strip = all the UK pages [and get those out of the menu], perhaps even put INDEX temporarily out

So, the complete site can be translated well with DEEPL and Automatic Translation [I read, have not even looked at it, but SEO always goes in that case also fine I read]. No problems yet seen or looked for!

I am not sure if that will solve the following:

= The button links PROBLEM, which directs to the UK default language instead of the translated language [that might be THOUGH one, in any case, WHY is for me a BIG question mark [last year was the same = even SUPPORT had no clue in the beginning [but that was a year ago - times might have been changed.

= but it might for sure solve that I have to refresh [each time to get errors out of translations] = see these screenshots [I assume this is done automatically, correct, with the automatic translations and DEEPL!?!]

= problems reported in ATE itself with half-translated links [blue]

And perhaps other related problems.

If that would help, I will strip the site off, so only the pages [with UK content] to be translated to all languages will be in the menu.

Is that a feasible option, or is it the case that if you choose automatic [complete site], that also [test pages | offline pages], and for example [complianz in footer = those are not allowed to be translated! =]

Is there a way, so in that case, I can / might prevent problems I walk into now with these tests [although they are often precisely the same problems - at least with the internal redirections of the Button Links! and Navigation to the UK languages, instead of the correct translated WPML pages.

And, of course, it will save vast amounts of time for me and support. If this would work

I hope I can explain what I mean or try to explain [what I try to say].

Regards,
Anton

= the examples in the screenshot, save time

= but another way of working might prevent the problems; I reported in the ATE support screen while I was manually translating the pages

= and perhaps, this might be 1 one bulk [I did not have that last year | so that has another cause why the product page [test with product Cahuita Night Tour],

= The Woocommerce Fields [also reported] looked at first glance okay, but translation [seems when I looked into detail not okay, as field [product and variations, and pre-filled [were not correctly translated], which implies the WoocCmmerce shop does not work anymore on WPML translated pages if these [fields are not exact the same].

Sorry for all the e-mails [but I think the rest will be minor, what we will walk into] compared to these issues.

I do these tests [so we have the complete picture | or I know, at least, what I can give as feedback, and try to explain [sometimes I know, it is hard for me to explain what I mean]. I try to do it as structured as I can.

There are 40 pages to come in 3 languages this time.

Regards and sincerely,
TON TT

I already provided all the Debug information and Login [WPML has its own dedicated login] in previous = related support questions; this is known by the support team.

Mr Long Nguyen is working on those. I think it is best to stay unless he delegates, of course [since support works different hours], so everyone is fine, but I think he has the best overview now.

cahuita night tour page with ATE - I have to push - refresh each time Translation = see Red.png
cahuita night tour page with ATE - I have to push - after refresh [lots of work - can bulk auto solve this.png
September 5, 2023 at 6:43 am #14340109

Long Nguyen
Supporter

Languages: English (English )

Timezone: Asia/Ho_Chi_Minh (GMT+07:00)

Hi there,

Thank you for contacting WPML support, I'd be happy to help you with this issue.

Bulk translation means you can send more content (posts, pages ...) to translation (automatic or manual) in one batch. Please read more in the documentation https://wpml.org/documentation/automatic-translation/automatically-translating-multiple-translation-jobs-in-bulk/

By default, the content on a page is already translated, it will be saved to the translation memory and you won't be charged for the same content when using automatic translation.

If you still want to re-translate the content with automatic translation, you can select the option "Overwrite existing translations" when sending it to translation. Please check this screenshot hidden link
or translate each segment manually as you do.

Refer to the documentation https://wpml.org/documentation/translating-your-contents/how-wpml-keeps-track-of-your-translations/

I see you have other questions and I already splited them into other tickets for those questions.

Look forward to your reply.
Thanks

September 5, 2023 at 1:26 pm #14344935

antoniusP-2

Dear Mr Long Nguyen,

[SPLIT Ticket: Links for Product to Tourpage] = normal link "more information"

I'm sharing the file with working and not working Links with Dropbox here.

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Regards,
TT

September 5, 2023 at 4:57 pm #14346497
antoniusP-2

Dear Mr Long Nguyen,

SPLIT Tickets [TOURPAGE SLIDER]

I made the file; it is enclosed with the DROPBOX URL:

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If the solution is found for 1 of the 19 Tour Page Sliders [14 Tour Page sliders | 2 Lodge Sliders | 3 School Sliders]. All these 19 sliders are of the exact ORIGIN and TYPE [should be exactly = all the same type of SLIDERS]

IMPORTANT INPUT AND MESSAGE !!!!!

= for each page [I deleted all caches]
= with repeat, the excel file will react differently [in other words], the results might not be the same [this issue = with the BUG BUTTON Issie = Last TICKET], might be a secondary support Issue [as the fix has to be permanent, otherwise I can not extend this site]. And as of my knowledge [this problem = and even more the last BIG ticket to Come = Regular Buttons].

It does not make sense:

= that some links in WPML translations work and other ones in the same slide do NOT
= If I repeat, I get different results [with emptied caches]
= I think [but for sure the upcoming one, you could involve 2nd support = as that was an absolute mess last time, and not due to WPML support or Ingemar [who is excellent!], but all wrong, and solutions were temporarily fixed.

As development might have evolved [almost one year ago, I hope the compatibility between DIVI and WPML makes it this time.

Regards,
TT

[SPLIT TICKET TOUR PAGE SLIDERS]

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I Translated all These Pages complete with Translate Automatically. These sliders appear on 19 pages = UK Default URL. [and are all the Same Template]. I also update in WPML all the "Translate Link Targets."”

In 50% or more cases, the [WPML Translation Pages in NL | DE | ES [Dutch | German | Spanish] link to the UK default Tour Page / Logdge Page / Contact Page instead of the WPML Translated Pages.

The URL list would be too long. It is one solution for all, as ALL these Sliders are the same.

First menu Tours
[Slider bottom Page = More Slides per Slider]

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First menu Lodges
[Slider bottom Page = More Slides per Slider]

hidden link 15
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2nd menu Education
[Slider bottom Page = More Slides per Slider]

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hidden link 19

Last year, we had the same problem; Ingemar from Support fixed it [he had to migrate the site]. This is a large and significant problem, but I think it.

This was the most significant problem last year, [[[with another SPLIT TICKET to FOLLOW] = [regular] BUTTON LINKS do not work on 70% of all WPML Translated Pages]]].

Regards,
TON TT

I think that would be too long for a DropBox File [all Sliders = 19 pages = see SPLIT Ticket]

I'm sharing 3 of the 19 pages here as an example [but WPML translation Errors = Link to Default UK Page seems random | artificial.

If the solution is found for 1 of the 19 Tourpage Sliders [14 Tourslider | 2 Lodge Sliders | 3 School Sliders].

All these 19 sliders are of the exact ORIGIn and Type.

Regards,
TT

New threads created by Long Nguyen and linked to this one are listed below:

https://wpml.org/forums/topic/tour-page-slider-urls-are-not-translated/

September 6, 2023 at 2:17 am #14348183

Long Nguyen
Supporter

Languages: English (English )

Timezone: Asia/Ho_Chi_Minh (GMT+07:00)

Hi,

As I mentioned in another ticket, please help us to keep the ticket clean and easy to focus on and understand. You can add those information to the corresponding ticket or you can create a new ticket if you don't see it.

Let me know your concern about sending content to translation in bulk or close this one if you see it is resolved.

Thanks.

September 6, 2023 at 2:20 pm #14353183

antoniusP-2

Thank Mr Long Nguyen, all is clear about [up till now problems I had with BULK translation.

Ticket can be closed, alone the Bull part.

Regards and thanks,
TT